Date: 8/28/25 12:53 pm
From: 'Tony Leukering' via Colorado Birds <cobirds...>
Subject: [cobirds] Bird locations
Hi all:

After a very long hiatus from Cobirds, I have signed up again. Not being
afraid of controversy, I thought I'd start my new tenure here right!

Thanks at least partly to a Muscovy Duck on the "wrong" side of the Rio
Grande many, many moons ago, the American Birding Association (ABA) put its
foot down and promulgated specific rules about the listing game as played
by ABA and its members. Related to my conversation's topic, ABA's first
rule is (taken from ABA Recording Rules & Interpretations - American
Birding Association
<https://www.aba.org/aba-recording-rules-and-interpretations/>):

(1) The bird must have been within the prescribed area when encountered,
and the encounter must have occurred within the prescribed time period.

To be frank, that means that no matter where the birder is standing,
sitting, riding, flying, etc., the important aspect of location is where
the bird is. In fact, it is the ONLY consideration.

Of course, eBird doesn't care from where birds are reported, at least at
small scales. It created its social aspect of the website to generate
friendly competition, despite knowing that competition makes some people go
a bit crazy, all for the lure of the list and names in lights on whatever
geographic region's Top Ten. As I said, eBird doesn't care about some of
the particulars; it wants only more and more data, and if their lack of
care generates two checklists rather than just one for the same bird at the
same place, that's simply delightful.

Enjoy,

Tony Leukering

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